War and Peace in USA - an example:-
War and Peace: "LDS ideas about war and peace are complex. but typical of USA
They synthesize a number of basic values. First are the ideals of finding peace in Christ (John 14:27), turning the other cheek and loving one's enemies (Matt. 5:39, 44), repeatedly forgiving one's enemies (D&C 64:10; 98:23-27, 39-43), and renouncing war and proclaiming peace (D&C 98:16).
I believe that these forgiving acts are one of the keys to personal happiness.
I was raised under an umbrella of english propaganda and the blitz to hate germans and Germany.
It took from 1942 to 1959 for me to learn to see the germans as people, not a stereotype, and forgive them for the loss of my father, who in fact was not killed by the torpedo which sank HMS Somali but by the arctic storm a few days later..
Next are the goals of establishing a perfect community of righteous, harmonious people (see Zion) and of welcoming the millennial reign of Jesus for a thousand years of peace.
Now we enter the more dangerous ground of a charismatic leader establishing a cult - or a heretical church as Rome might say - or a modern psycholgist might condemn as creating as many personal problems as it solved.
Third is a fundamental aversion to any use of force or violence that denies personal agency (D&C 121:41-44).
Next is the recognition that war was the tactic Satan used in the premortal existence (see War in Heaven) and that he continues to reign with violence on this earth (Moses 6:15).
Then there is acknowledgment that it is appropriate and sometimes required to take up arms in defense of one's family, religion, and freedom (Alma 43:45-47; 46:12).
Now we enter the world of ethics or metaphysics or appled philosphy - it's in the book - be it Koran or Bible. SEE It's In The Book: "It's In The Book a/k/a Grandma's Lye Soap by Johnny Standley' which was a popular comedy skit - and a hit record - in 1952"
Next are the ethical and legal distinctions between deliberate murder and the killing of opposing soldiers in the line of combat duty.
and what of the Ten Commandments? THOU SHALT NOT KILL makes no exeptions.
There is an obligation of all citizens to honor and obey the constitutional law of their land "
Which is where USA falls down, because countries are subject to International Law too, and their politicians must surrender some of their power and soveriegnity to the higher goal of universal human rights
Universal Declaration of Human Rights: "Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,
Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,
Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,
Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations, "
and it took UK England 50 years to agree to that - which even protects terrorists from cruel and unusual punishment - and just now limits our parliament's choices in creating emergency laws.
They synthesize a number of basic values. First are the ideals of finding peace in Christ (John 14:27), turning the other cheek and loving one's enemies (Matt. 5:39, 44), repeatedly forgiving one's enemies (D&C 64:10; 98:23-27, 39-43), and renouncing war and proclaiming peace (D&C 98:16).
I believe that these forgiving acts are one of the keys to personal happiness.
I was raised under an umbrella of english propaganda and the blitz to hate germans and Germany.
It took from 1942 to 1959 for me to learn to see the germans as people, not a stereotype, and forgive them for the loss of my father, who in fact was not killed by the torpedo which sank HMS Somali but by the arctic storm a few days later..
Next are the goals of establishing a perfect community of righteous, harmonious people (see Zion) and of welcoming the millennial reign of Jesus for a thousand years of peace.
Now we enter the more dangerous ground of a charismatic leader establishing a cult - or a heretical church as Rome might say - or a modern psycholgist might condemn as creating as many personal problems as it solved.
Third is a fundamental aversion to any use of force or violence that denies personal agency (D&C 121:41-44).
Next is the recognition that war was the tactic Satan used in the premortal existence (see War in Heaven) and that he continues to reign with violence on this earth (Moses 6:15).
Then there is acknowledgment that it is appropriate and sometimes required to take up arms in defense of one's family, religion, and freedom (Alma 43:45-47; 46:12).
Now we enter the world of ethics or metaphysics or appled philosphy - it's in the book - be it Koran or Bible. SEE It's In The Book: "It's In The Book a/k/a Grandma's Lye Soap by Johnny Standley' which was a popular comedy skit - and a hit record - in 1952"
Next are the ethical and legal distinctions between deliberate murder and the killing of opposing soldiers in the line of combat duty.
and what of the Ten Commandments? THOU SHALT NOT KILL makes no exeptions.
There is an obligation of all citizens to honor and obey the constitutional law of their land "
Which is where USA falls down, because countries are subject to International Law too, and their politicians must surrender some of their power and soveriegnity to the higher goal of universal human rights
Universal Declaration of Human Rights: "Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,
Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,
Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,
Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations, "
and it took UK England 50 years to agree to that - which even protects terrorists from cruel and unusual punishment - and just now limits our parliament's choices in creating emergency laws.
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