how to find a maiden name
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In Reply to: Re: Marriage Record question by: Hugh Watkins
Hi Hugh
The info I have is as follows:
Charles Henry B SKINNER - marriage in the Apr/May/Jun quarter of 1887 Volume 2a Page 3 District: Epsom
1881 census info:
Dwelling: Hallmead Farm Hallmead Lane
Census Place: Sutton, Surrey, England
Source: FHL Film 1341178 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0759 Folio 49 Page 23
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
George SKINNER M 55 M Shadbroke, Suffolk, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Farmer
Maria SKINNER M 52 F Weston, Suffolk, England
Rel: Wife
Maria SKINNER U 21 F Weston, Suffolk, England
Rel: Daur
John SKINNER U 20 M Weston, Suffolk, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Milkman
Charles SKINNER 15 M Halesworth, Suffolk, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Farmers Son
Emma SKINNER 13 F Halesworth, Suffolk, England
Rel: Daur
Thanks heaps for helping me, it's much appreciated!
Kind regards
Lisa
my answer
Re: Marriage Record question : -- 7 Nov 2006
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
search
marriages
skinner
epsom
you may find siblings or parents and uncles and aunties too
Marriages Dec 1886
Skinner Emma Bartram Epsom 2a 3 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Jun 1887
Skinner Charles Henry B Epsom 2a 3 Scan available - click to view
click on the number 3
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1886
CUTLER Arthur Henry Epsom 2a 3
Holbrow George Epsom 2a 3 Scan available - click to view
ROBERTS Maud Epsom 2a 3 Scan available - click to view
Skinner Emma Bartram Epsom 2a 3
AND
Marriages Jun 1887
Skinner Charles Henry B Epsom 2a 3
which means the transcription of that page is not complete
and you have to search all the images for that quarter June 1887
either on fiche at a library or on line - or buy the certificate
UKBMD - Births, Marriages, Deaths Indexes & Census transcriptions ...
These web sites, with indexes based on the original registers, can be seen when you click on the Local BMD button in the menu to the left. ...
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/
includedes
kingston upon Thames
Marriage Indexes for the Kingston area 1842 to 1902
These indexes contain information about marriages which took place at the Register Office and at churches throughout the Kingston upon Thames area. (They do not however, contain information about Church of England Marriages). Please remember that District and County boundaries have changed several times since 1842 and the indexes will reflect this.
but no Epsom
back to
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/census/uk/default.aspx
looking at Skinner
keyword(s) Halesworth
Exact Search Results - 1881 England Census
You searched for Skinner Refine your search
The 1881 Census
is provided in
association with:
All Census Results
Viewing 1-5 of 5
View Record Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Civil Parish County View Image
View Record Charles Skinner George,
Maria abt 1866 Halesworth, Suffolk, England Son Sutton Surrey
View Record Edith Skinner abt 1877 Ubbeston, Suffolk, England Visitor Wenhaston Suffolk
View Record Emma Skinner George,
Maria abt 1868 Halesworth, Suffolk, England Daughter Sutton Surrey
View Record Maria Skinner abt 1806 Halesworth, Suffolk, England Mother in Law Great Yarmouth Norfolk
View Record Mary Ann E. Skinner abt 1865 Cookley, Suffolk, England Visitor Wenhaston Suffolk
==================
Charles H Skinner Abby abt 1865 Halesworth, Suffolk, England Head Aldrington Sussex
NB difference in system of rounding of ages 9 or 3 months before census date / year
Registration district: Steyning
Sub-registration district: Shoreham
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Abby Skinner 27 born Sutton Surrey
Alice M Skinner 2
Charles F G Skinner 10/12 months
Charles H Skinner 26
Renee A Skinner 3
=============================
BACK TO 1881 CENSUS
97 hits for ABBY
Exact Search Results - 1881 England Census
You searched for Abby born in Sutton Refine your search
The 1881 Census
is provided in
association with:
All Census Results
Viewing 1-1 of 1
View Record Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Civil Parish County View Image
View Record Abby Coney abt 1863 Sutton, Surrey, England Servant Carshalton Surrey
I love viewing images with Firefox 1.5.0.7 (2.0 is not ready yet - freezes) on my big 23 inch apple macintosh screen at 150%
great for my old eyes
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=7619&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0
131 hits for abby
two with Keyword(s) Sutton
Exact Search Results - 1871 England Census
You searched for Abby Refine your search
The 1871 Census
is provided in
association with:
All Census Results
Viewing 1-2 of 2
View Record Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Civil Parish County/Island View Image
View Record Abby Loney Frederick,
Swan abt 1864 Sutton, Surrey, England Daughter Sutton Surrey
View Record Abby Snatchfold Richard abt 1800 Chilham, Sussex, England Wife Woking Surrey
Registration district: Epsom
Sub-registration district: Carshalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 136
Household Members:
Name Age
John Horn 25 LODGER fireman at gasworks
Abby Loney 7 SIC is CONEY
Alan Loney 3
Charles Loney 6
Frederick Loney 58
Frederick Loney 16
Hannah Loney 14
James Loney 13
Jane Loney 5
Joseph Loney 18
Shan Loney 2
Swan Loney 43
William Loney 15
Xaver Loney 9
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=7619&path=Surrey.Sutton.ALL.11.29&fn=Abby&ln=Loney&st=r&pid=9661898&rc=&zp=75
what a wonderful family
dad is forman of the gasworks
and four of the children are lamplighters
I remember the lamp lighter in Solihull on his bicycle with a tapered ladder going round and winding up the clocks which turned the gas on to be lit form thepilot light
before that they would have had a pole as long as lamp was high with a hook to turn the gas on or off and a taper to light the gas at the mantle
this was advanced technology for the time
town gas was made by cooking coal in a retort (or an oven) until what was left was porous coke
coal tar was a biproduct leading to aniline dye
the sites of gas works today are seen as highly toxic full of heavy metals
back to
Name: Abby CONEY
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Frederick
Mother's name: Swan
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Sutton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints and St Nicholas
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
I have done her alternative name but you better fix the rest of the family too - you might find some cousins
going back to
http://ancestry.co.uk/
do bookmark this freebie page
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx
going in to
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8965
Name Range Search Results - England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1837-1983
Refine your search
All Birth, Marriage, & Death Results
Viewing 1-1 of 1
First Name on Page Last Name on Page Year Quarter View Image
Edwin Earle Collins Peter Connolly 1887 Apr-May-Jun
and there she is Epsom volume 2a page 3
if this was my own tree I would regard that as GOLD PLATED
three items of evidence :-
1891 census unusual name + birth place <<>
1871 the same now a strong candidate
Civil registration of a marriage
getting the certificate would be the icing on the cake
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1896
Mardon Abby Jane Epsom 2a 13
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1870
CONEY Mary Epsom 2a 5 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Jun 1908
Coney Eliza Ann Epsom 2a 77
so she has not been transcribed yet
or is totally lost in typo land
her birth is though
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Births Jun 1864
CONEY Abby Epsom 2a 4
well I am supposed to be writing a book - or two
but this made a welcome distraction and having seen working gas works and gas lights as a boy 1945 to 1953 circa
It brought back happy memories of the day the street lights were turned on again when the air raids ceased and VE day came with bonfires.
you see why "pay per view" is too expensive for serious use
and the UK census sites which insist on a surname before allowing a search
are not made by genealogists for genealogists
from the thread
- Marriage Record question : -- 6 Nov 2006
- Re: Marriage Record question : -- 6 Nov 2006
- Re: Marriage Record question : -- 6 Nov 2006
- Re: Marriage Record question : -- 7 Nov 2006
In Reply to: Re: Marriage Record question by: Hugh Watkins
Hi Hugh
The info I have is as follows:
Charles Henry B SKINNER - marriage in the Apr/May/Jun quarter of 1887 Volume 2a Page 3 District: Epsom
1881 census info:
Dwelling: Hallmead Farm Hallmead Lane
Census Place: Sutton, Surrey, England
Source: FHL Film 1341178 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0759 Folio 49 Page 23
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
George SKINNER M 55 M Shadbroke, Suffolk, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Farmer
Maria SKINNER M 52 F Weston, Suffolk, England
Rel: Wife
Maria SKINNER U 21 F Weston, Suffolk, England
Rel: Daur
John SKINNER U 20 M Weston, Suffolk, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Milkman
Charles SKINNER 15 M Halesworth, Suffolk, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Farmers Son
Emma SKINNER 13 F Halesworth, Suffolk, England
Rel: Daur
Thanks heaps for helping me, it's much appreciated!
Kind regards
Lisa
my answer
Re: Marriage Record question : -- 7 Nov 2006
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
search
marriages
skinner
epsom
you may find siblings or parents and uncles and aunties too
Marriages Dec 1886
Skinner Emma Bartram Epsom 2a 3 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Jun 1887
Skinner Charles Henry B Epsom 2a 3 Scan available - click to view
click on the number 3
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1886
CUTLER Arthur Henry Epsom 2a 3
Holbrow George Epsom 2a 3 Scan available - click to view
ROBERTS Maud Epsom 2a 3 Scan available - click to view
Skinner Emma Bartram Epsom 2a 3
AND
Marriages Jun 1887
Skinner Charles Henry B Epsom 2a 3
which means the transcription of that page is not complete
and you have to search all the images for that quarter June 1887
either on fiche at a library or on line - or buy the certificate
UKBMD - Births, Marriages, Deaths Indexes & Census transcriptions ...
These web sites, with indexes based on the original registers, can be seen when you click on the Local BMD button in the menu to the left. ...
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/
includedes
kingston upon Thames
Marriage Indexes for the Kingston area 1842 to 1902
These indexes contain information about marriages which took place at the Register Office and at churches throughout the Kingston upon Thames area. (They do not however, contain information about Church of England Marriages). Please remember that District and County boundaries have changed several times since 1842 and the indexes will reflect this.
but no Epsom
back to
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/census/uk/default.aspx
looking at Skinner
keyword(s) Halesworth
Exact Search Results - 1881 England Census
You searched for Skinner Refine your search
The 1881 Census
is provided in
association with:
All Census Results
Viewing 1-5 of 5
View Record Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Civil Parish County View Image
View Record Charles Skinner George,
Maria abt 1866 Halesworth, Suffolk, England Son Sutton Surrey
View Record Edith Skinner abt 1877 Ubbeston, Suffolk, England Visitor Wenhaston Suffolk
View Record Emma Skinner George,
Maria abt 1868 Halesworth, Suffolk, England Daughter Sutton Surrey
View Record Maria Skinner abt 1806 Halesworth, Suffolk, England Mother in Law Great Yarmouth Norfolk
View Record Mary Ann E. Skinner abt 1865 Cookley, Suffolk, England Visitor Wenhaston Suffolk
==================
Charles H Skinner Abby abt 1865 Halesworth, Suffolk, England Head Aldrington Sussex
NB difference in system of rounding of ages 9 or 3 months before census date / year
Registration district: Steyning
Sub-registration district: Shoreham
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Abby Skinner 27 born Sutton Surrey
Alice M Skinner 2
Charles F G Skinner 10/12 months
Charles H Skinner 26
Renee A Skinner 3
=============================
BACK TO 1881 CENSUS
97 hits for ABBY
Exact Search Results - 1881 England Census
You searched for Abby born in Sutton Refine your search
The 1881 Census
is provided in
association with:
All Census Results
Viewing 1-1 of 1
View Record Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Civil Parish County View Image
View Record Abby Coney abt 1863 Sutton, Surrey, England Servant Carshalton Surrey
I love viewing images with Firefox 1.5.0.7 (2.0 is not ready yet - freezes) on my big 23 inch apple macintosh screen at 150%
great for my old eyes
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=7619&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0
131 hits for abby
two with Keyword(s) Sutton
Exact Search Results - 1871 England Census
You searched for Abby Refine your search
The 1871 Census
is provided in
association with:
All Census Results
Viewing 1-2 of 2
View Record Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Civil Parish County/Island View Image
View Record Abby Loney Frederick,
Swan abt 1864 Sutton, Surrey, England Daughter Sutton Surrey
View Record Abby Snatchfold Richard abt 1800 Chilham, Sussex, England Wife Woking Surrey
Registration district: Epsom
Sub-registration district: Carshalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 136
Household Members:
Name Age
John Horn 25 LODGER fireman at gasworks
Abby Loney 7 SIC is CONEY
Alan Loney 3
Charles Loney 6
Frederick Loney 58
Frederick Loney 16
Hannah Loney 14
James Loney 13
Jane Loney 5
Joseph Loney 18
Shan Loney 2
Swan Loney 43
William Loney 15
Xaver Loney 9
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=7619&path=Surrey.Sutton.ALL.11.29&fn=Abby&ln=Loney&st=r&pid=9661898&rc=&zp=75
what a wonderful family
dad is forman of the gasworks
and four of the children are lamplighters
I remember the lamp lighter in Solihull on his bicycle with a tapered ladder going round and winding up the clocks which turned the gas on to be lit form thepilot light
before that they would have had a pole as long as lamp was high with a hook to turn the gas on or off and a taper to light the gas at the mantle
this was advanced technology for the time
town gas was made by cooking coal in a retort (or an oven) until what was left was porous coke
coal tar was a biproduct leading to aniline dye
the sites of gas works today are seen as highly toxic full of heavy metals
back to
Name: Abby CONEY
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Frederick
Mother's name: Swan
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Sutton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints and St Nicholas
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
I have done her alternative name but you better fix the rest of the family too - you might find some cousins
going back to
http://ancestry.co.uk/
do bookmark this freebie page
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx
going in to
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8965
Name Range Search Results - England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1837-1983
Refine your search
All Birth, Marriage, & Death Results
Viewing 1-1 of 1
First Name on Page Last Name on Page Year Quarter View Image
Edwin Earle Collins Peter Connolly 1887 Apr-May-Jun
and there she is Epsom volume 2a page 3
if this was my own tree I would regard that as GOLD PLATED
three items of evidence :-
1891 census unusual name + birth place <<>
1871 the same now a strong candidate
Civil registration of a marriage
getting the certificate would be the icing on the cake
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1896
Mardon Abby Jane Epsom 2a 13
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1870
CONEY Mary Epsom 2a 5 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Jun 1908
Coney Eliza Ann Epsom 2a 77
so she has not been transcribed yet
or is totally lost in typo land
her birth is though
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Births Jun 1864
CONEY Abby Epsom 2a 4
well I am supposed to be writing a book - or two
but this made a welcome distraction and having seen working gas works and gas lights as a boy 1945 to 1953 circa
It brought back happy memories of the day the street lights were turned on again when the air raids ceased and VE day came with bonfires.
you see why "pay per view" is too expensive for serious use
and the UK census sites which insist on a surname before allowing a search
are not made by genealogists for genealogists
posted by Hugh W at 12:49 pm
1 Comments:
Hi Hugh
Thanks so much for your help on this one - it has really opened my eyes as far as searching a little differently. I've taken up the 14 days free on Ancestry.com and I see exactly what you mean as far as the pay per view being far too expensive for everyday use. The info on the gasworks and lamplighting was also very interesting!
Thanks again.
Kind regards
Lisa
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