Saturday, March 20, 2004

Sullivan Burgess Family Tree @ www.sandisullivan.com: " am most interested in finding information on James Sullivan who immigrated to Canada in 1912 and left behind their families. I know it is too much to find my grandfather side of the family. (do you know how many James Sullivan's there are?) If you have any information on a James Sullivan born in England on Sept 25 in the 1870's, PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!! I am offering a $100.00 US reward for the first person that can find him. Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the back up I have on James as to date. Sullivan, James Attestation Sullivan, James Attestation 2 Sullivan, Harman, Marriage Record Statement of Death"
Westliche Inseln

the Western Islands
part of a micronation

Micronation - Wikipedia: "A micronation (cybernation, fantasy country, model country, new country project, pseudonation, counternation, ephemeral state, online nation, and variants thereof) is an entity intended to replace, resemble, mock, or exist on equal footing with recognized independent states. Some micronations are created with serious intent, while others exist as a hobby or stunt. For the most part they exist only on paper, on the internet, or in the minds of their creators and participants.
A small number have also managed to achieve some degree of recognition. When they do, they converge to some degree with other organizing paradigms that offer, or seem to offer, political or infrastructural independence of some sort. "

Google Search: micronation


MICROFREEDOM.COM: "This website has been established as a collection of links to active websites concerning micronation, new country, new nation and homeland projects, as well as governments-in-exile, seditionist/independence movements and tribal sovereignty. "

What Is A Micronation?: " 'micronation' is any number of things:

...a model country that exists solely as work of fiction.

...a small group of people who are seeking sovereignty from another governmental power.

...a collection of brave souls who are trying to establish a new country.

...a tiny sovereign jurisdiction that may have escaped the notice of other major powers. "


How to Start Your Own Micronation: "

SO. You want to start your own country. You have cast about and discovered the strange quirky world of micronationalism and you think you might be interested in having your own little realm to rule . . . .but where do you start?"

this blog was triggered by discussion on the FOTW list of these flags

Thursday, March 18, 2004

Merionethshire WalesGenWeb: "I call it the merry dance between primary sources:- first your living relatives,
with birth and marriage certificates back to 1st July 1837.
From 1901 all the census back to 1841 with parish registers,
wills, probates and much much more in the archives - often not online.
All the time dancing between sources comparing and recording.
Take pains and beware of the common errors in genealogy."

about time I added this site to the side bar too
what a lovely surprise
from the creator of s a l o m e . h o m e p a g e . d k

by email
a new page on DNKCEN
FT 1787, Odense, Bjerge, Kølstrup

THANK YOU


Hugh Watkins

Tuesday, March 16, 2004

Compton Verney - Introducing Compton Verney: "Compton Verney is a new art gallery in South Warwickshire."

my kind of place

but how to get there by public tranport ?

Monday, March 15, 2004

Weather Underground: Coleshill, United Kingdom Forecast: "Length of Day: 11h 51m
Length Of Visible Light: 12h 59m
Moon Phase: Waning Crescent, 33% of moon illuminated "

what I saw this morning at about 500am
this is my local weather
this weather station is about 2 miles away

Updated: 9:00 AM GMT on March 15, 2004
Observed at Coleshill, United Kingdom
Temperature 49 °F / 10 °C
Windchill 43 °F / 6 °C
Humidity 84%
Dew Point 45 °F / 7 °C
Wind SSW at 16 mph / 25.7 km/h
Wind Gust -
Pressure 30.12 in / 1020 hPa
Conditions Mostly Cloudy
Visibility 9 miles / 14 kilometers
Oluf Rygh: Norwegian Farm Names

On one of my first visits to the Royal Library in Copenhagen,
I found this on the open shelves.

It is masterpiece and a source without parallel in english.


Oluf Rygh: Norwegian Farm Names

In the late 19th century a new and complete land registry was compiled in Norway. A central member of the land register commission was the Norwegian philologist and archaeologist Oluf Rygh. On the basis of his work in the commission, Rygh started to publish a complete catalogue over the names of the main Norwegian farms (45 000 in 1886). For each farm the name is given together with its pronunciation, etymology and reported variants in an impressive list of historical sources. The editing and publication of the catalogue was done over nearly 40 years and was completed long after Rygh's death. The etymological explanations are coloured by the desire of the national romantic movement to find the original name. In Norway at the turn of the century this meant an Old Norse name. In Southern Norway most names have an Old Norse origin. In Northern Norway there are lots of Norwegian sounding place names with a Saami origin. This fact and the still existing, though not very serious, cultural conflict between the Norwegian and the Saami population imply that some parts of Rygh's work should be used with care. The huge number of references to name variants in the historical sources, however, makes the work very important for archaeologists, historians and people doing place-name studies. It may also help geneologist to identify farms. The catalogue does not contain any information about the people living on the farms. When you have identified a farm we recommend you to go to The draft land registry Matrikkelutkastet av 1950from 1950 containing all real estates outside the cities with the name of the owner in 1950 or to the various consensus at DigitalarkivetThe digital Norwegian National Archives.

The entire catalogue has been converted by the Documentation Project into an electronic text with SGML mark up. The source references to Diplomatarium Norvegicum (a collection of medival documents concerning Norway) are made into Internet links. A click will bring you to the electronic Diplomatarium.

The database currently covers the following volumes of O. Rygh's series on Norwegian farm names: 1 through 12, 14, 15 and 17. These volumes cover farm names in the following modern counties (fylke) Østfold (Smaalenenes amt), Akershus og Oslo (Akershus amt), Hedmark (Hedemarkens amt), Oppland (Kristians amt), Buskerud (Buskeruds amt), Vestfold (Jarlsberg og Larviks amt), Telemark (Bratsberg amt), (Aust-Agder (Agdenes amt),Vest-Agder (Lister og Mandals amt), Rogaland (Stavanger amt), Hordaland (Søndre Bergenhus amt), Sogn og fjordane (Nordre Bergenshus), Sør-Trøndelag (Søndre Trondhjems amt), Nord-Trøndelag (Nordre Trondhjems amt) and Troms (Tromsø amt). The names in parenthesis are the older county names used in this database.
from my mailbox
Subject: "The Weekly Fireside" Week ending 14 March 2004
Date: 15/03/2004, 03:32
From: CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com
To: HOSTFMLYJayne@aol.com


Hear Ye .... Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 14 March 2004



NOTE: If you do not wish to receive the Weekly Fireside, PLEASE send email to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com saying "UNSUBSCRIBE" and they will remove you from the distribution. On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter, please have them send Jayne or Bill email with subscribe in the subject line.

NOTE from Jayne: I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently. I hope you enjoy our little newsletter.

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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Thursday and Friday were Songs, Letters and Poems nights. We even shared some recipes of the Civil War period. :D Next week is OPEN CHAT Join us with your Civil War stories and/or questions. I had a suggestion from one of the chatters that one night we talk about the homefront during the Civil War. We will set up a date for this and get it on the schedule. If you have other ideas, by all means let us know!!!!

Before I go any further, I want to wish my partner, ok my former partner, Jimmy and his "honey", as he affectionately called her, a VERY Happy Anniversary with even more wishes for many more years together!!!

As I was skimming thru some of the old issues of the Weekly Fireside, I found a poem written by one of our youngest attendees who joined the chat. Her name is Jenny, from MS. She was in her early teens when she use to join us. I thought I'd share the poem with you all.

A tribute to the GFS's
written by MBram10513

You all are very patient.
You all understand.
Your hearts are warm and caring.
You have room for everyone.
Sometimes you are serious,
but cut loose at times.
You have answers to our questions.
You have wisdom so we listen.
I guess thats why ya'll are my best friends.

Jenny.... if you're out there somewhere, Hi from the folks in the American Civil War History chatroom and let us know how you're doing

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I'm leaving this in for another week. We'd like to have some feed back if you are interested in any of the follow. Steve and Tom are both interested to see if folks would be interested in tours... Steve with a group to Ft. Delaware perhaps, and Tom with a group to Gettysburg. And don't forget, too, IllinoisCW has offered to do a tour of some of the western battlefields. They asked to put out some feelers to see if there would be any interest. Send me an email with your thoughts about it and where'd you like to go. Tom has said he'll be available any weekend except the first week in July.

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MUSIC
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If you have some favorite music, tell us a little about it and we'll put it here in the newsletter.

Several weeks ago Jim told us about Eva Cassidy and as I told you the next week that I went and bought the "Songbird" album he suggested. Well..... I've become addicted to her music... I then told you all about Josh Groban's "You Raise Me Up" and received the following. :)

From: RHilands@aol.com

You can buy the DVD or CD Or VHS of Josh Groban. The DVD I have is his Concert that has been on PBS several times along with his 1st CD album. His newest album is "Closer."

I have been a fan since I first caught him on "Good Morning America" when he was 19 years old. He is now 23.

If you have lost a loved one, you need to hear his "To Where You Are." He is coming to Connecticut for a concert on April 7th. I tried to get tickets back in November & he is sold out.

My son had never heard of him but tried to get me tickets and he came back to me and said, "hey Dad, this guy must be good." I said why and he said I can get you tickets but they are $200.00 each.

FYI after reading from you about Eva Cassidy, I went and bought 2 of her albums. You are correct.

Go get Josh albums. You won't regret it.
Cheers,

Note from Jayne: At Bob's suggestion I went and bought Josh's new CD called "Closer" and he's right.... I don't regret it!! The DVD/CD will have to wait awhile.

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.



"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."



OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

JOIN HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill... Thursday 11 PM ET AND Friday 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room (on AOL only) The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights. We will still have our Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.

Also on Thursday 8-9PM ET: Trace Your Civil War Ancestors in Ancestral Digs. (on AOL only) Join HOST FMLY Wolfrd and HOST FMLY Heathr to discuss ancestral searches from the Civil War period

You can visit the other Genealogy chats by going to KEYWORD: Parenting Chats > scroll down to Genealogy and click. Be sure to read the Genealogy and History message boards at Genealogy Community > Genealogy:Boards > Historial People, Places & Times (scroll down to War Between the States) (post your questions on them too!!!)

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com.

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http://www.roberteleecwrt.org/reviews.html

http://www.cwbr.com/

Check out some book reviews at the above websites.




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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs,
and Poems evenings)
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WILLIAM BLACK

Co, B - 55th Illinois

This sure ain’t what I thought
Bein’ a soldier was gonna be.
Sure I knew there’d be lots a marchin’
But I’d followed the plow for years.
I even knew the food wouldn’t be the best,
But ma had died when I was just ten.
Sleepin’ in tents wouldn’t be too bad
As long as there were blankets to keep me warm.
I knew there’d be shootin’ and killin’.
Shootin’ and killin’ -
That’s what a soldier’s s’posed to do.
I was prepared for death
To be at my stoop any time.
But I sure didn’t think,
Back in Chicago when I joined up,
That I’d ever be told, by my own Colonel,
To kill one of our own men
Simply because he went home
To be with his wife
When she buried their baby boy.

by Frank Crawford

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DID YOU KNOW?
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During the Civil War, including the times before and after, it was legal and socially acceptable for a man to beat his wife, provided that the instrument used in the beating was no thicker that his thumb? Thus we get the term: Rule of thumb.

When a woman mourned for her husband in the 1860's, she spent a minimum of two-and-a-half years in mourning? That meant little or no social activities: no parties, no outings, no visitors, and a wardrobe that consisted of nothing but black. The husband, when mourning for his wife, however, spent three months in a black suit.

After the Battle of Gettysburg. the discarded rifles were collected and sent to Washington to be inspected and reissued? Of the 37,574 rifles recovered, 24,000were still loaded; 6,000 had one round in the barrel; 12,000 had two rounds in the barrel; 6,000 had three to ten rounds in the barrel. Onr rifle, the most remarkable of all, had been stuffed to the top with twenty-three rounds in the barrel.

source: http://www.22mass.com/strange.html

...............and there you have it.

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if
some of our readers can help you. If you get an answer to your
quesiton, please let us know.

Folks, this is YOUR place to ask questions...
please feel free to use it... send them to
CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com
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I'm going to leave the following in for another week.

FROM: Wmdperkins

I am interested in communicating with anyone who might have access to data for the following two individuals.

Francis RUGGLES joined the Louissiana (New Orleans) Washington Artillery (yes, I know that you haad to pay and submit an application to become a member) before the start of hostilities. He was working in New Orleans, born and raised in Massachusetts. He was mortally wounded working his gun on Marye's Heights, Battle of Fredricksburg.

Lt. Col., USA-Brig Gen, CSA Daniel RUGGLES, b Barre, Mass., Grad USMA 1833, resigned comission in winter of '61. Commanded 1st Div, Braggs Corps, Shiloh. Most of his troops were Louisianan.

I am interested in any information on either of these individuals (mine is fairly extensive but not complete.) I am especially interested in corresponding with any reenactor(s)/SCV Units which might be interested.

Daniel RUGGLES is a gg distant Uncle. I am still trying to fit Francis RUGGLES into my Genealogical tree but he too is not directly related. I have just become engrossed in the events of their lives and the similarities to their gg uncle, my ancestor, Brig Gen Timothy RUGGLES, highest ranking American born Colonial Officer.

I look forward to hearing from some of you.

Bill PERKINS

I too am a Yankee by birth, Southerner by choice.

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Weekly Web Sites we've received
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com

From: Bitsobluengray@aol.com

THE STONE PRAIRIE HOME GUARD
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~cappscreek/sphgmain.html

eHistory which has timeline events, battle outlines, biography and thousands of images and maps
http://www.ehistory.com/

The Generals' Burials Listing
http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/cwc/projects/dbases/generals.htm
The list of Civil War Generals is taken from Generals in Blue and Generals in Gray. West Point year, date of birth, date of death, cemetery, city and state are listed for each general.

Cemetery Index - US Civil War Center
http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/cwc/projects/cemindex.htm
you can search burials at the following cemeteries
Barrancas National Cemetery (FL)
Bay Pines Cemetery (FL)
Camp Butler National Cemetery (IL)
Camp Chase National Cemetery (OH)
Chalmette National Cemetery (LA)
Chattanooga National Cemetery (TN)
City Point National Cemetery (VA)
Cold Harbor National Cemetery (VA)
Confederate Stockade Cemetery at Johnson's Island (OH)
Cornett Cemetery, Cass County (TX)
Cypress Hills (NY)
Danville National Cemetery (KY)
Fairhaven Memorial Park and Mortuary (CA)
Fayetteville National Cemetery (AR)
Finn's Point (NJ)
Fort Harrison National Cemetery (VA)
Fort Snelling National Cemetery (MN)
Glendale National Cemetery (VA)
Grafton National Cemetery (WV)
Lexington National Cemetery (KY)
Mill Springs National Cemetery (KY)
Mobile National Cemetery (AL)
Mount Olivet Cemetery (LA) (currently incomplete)
Philadelphia National Cemetery (PA)
Richmond National Cemetery (VA)
Santa Ana National Cemetery (CA)
Seven Pines National Cemetery (VA)
St. Augustine National Cemetery (FL)
Union Mound Cemetery (MD)

Old Disease Names and Modern Definitions
http://www3.nb.sympatico.ca/pebbles2/tools.html#disease
http://www.monmouth.com/~sorourke/disease.htm

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FROM OUR READERS
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I received the following from An Madra Rua


Civil War Ladies and Gentlemen's Conference
March 6,7,8 2004

This was the first of these conferences which I had attended. Let me say up front that I was very impressed. It was not cheap to attend, the price was $230.00 per person, but I feel that I got my money's worth. I will definitely be attending the 2005 conference!
The conference was held in Harrisburg, PA and focused primarily on Civilian Life before, during and after the War. It opened on Friday with a series of workshops, which convered everything from how to properly tie a cravat, to the intricacies of the waltz, and polka, to the labor of doing your laundry without our modern machinery! On Saturday, there were two "tracks" of lectures: the first, Program A, dealt with women's clothing, CW era weddings, and the experiences of two nurses, one Southern and one Northern. Program B was of interest to the gentlemen, featuring lectures on Material Culture (what kind of "stuff" did they really have in the their homes), hat making and felting processes, transportation, News of the day (what was happening elsewhere in the world), men's working class clothing and immigration.
All of the lectures that I attended were excellent. The speakers were well prepared, good speakers and made good usage of visual aids. Each person attending the conference received a binder filled with a set of "chapters", one on each lecture in the track that he or she decided to attend. One of these chapters included a very extensive booklist, which will aid me in further research.
There were several clothing displays of original garments during the weekend. The Aurora collection (men's garments) was on display all weekend. In the main ballroom/lecture hall, there were three different displays, one each on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Participants were allowed to examine (but not touch) and photograph dozens of original dresses, shoes, bonnets and other items. Considering that a good book on historic costume usually runs about $75 dollars, this was a terrific opportunity!
A definite thumbs up for this conference! Keep an eye on their website for next year's conference and all of their classes for this year. http://genteelarts.com/#2001%20SEMINAR%20SCHEDULE

(((((((Rua))))))) Thanks a whole bunch!! Sounds like it was a great conference!

If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.
HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY... MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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NEW!!!!! GoldHobo@aol.com has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her. She has a book about them. Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

JLawson656@aol.com has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana. If you need help, send JL an email.

GandMS@aol.com Has a book Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street --- 1900

The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks, There are many pictures in the book. If you think your ancestor was a member of Hamilton Post No. 182 Please email GandMS@aol.com

MOM611@aol.com said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

Nanatnt2@aol.com has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

OhioSoldiers@aol.com Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

Bitsobluengray@aol.com has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email IllinoisCW@aol.com Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you. He will give it priority and see what he can find for you.

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/frye@gnat.net does Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA. Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside. Steve@dixieresearch.com

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html


March 20 - 21 Virginia Reenactment, living history, encampments, lectures, kids' activities and battles each afternoon at Endview Plantation in Newport News. 10 am-4 pm. $7. 757-887-1862 or www.endview.org

March 27-28 Virginia Living history weekend at Five Forks, part of the Petersburg National Battlefield west of Petersburg. Demonstrations, ranger programs and more. Free. 804-732-6092 or www.nps.gov/pete

April 3 - 4 Virginia Living history, anniversary encampment at the Sailor's Creek Battlefield Historic State Park near Farmville. Demonstrations, special talks, Hillsman House open. Free. More information: 434-392-3435 or www.dcr.state.va.us.

April 12 - 17 South Carolina Special events in Charleston surrounding the burial of the crew of the CSS Hunley, the Confederate submarine recovered in 2000. Events include living history, lectures, musical performances, artillery demonstrations, presentation of facial reconstructions of the Hunley crew and programs at the site of the conservation of the submarine. Funeral-related events include visitations, laying in state and the April 17 burial at Magnolia Cemetery. Large crowds are expected. For current list of events and times, see www.hunley.org

April 24 Maryland Special program, "Music of the Civil War," performances and discussion of the life and duties of Civil War musicians at the National Museum of Civil War Medicine in Frederick. 11 am-3 pm. Free with admission. 301-695-1864 or www.civilwarmed.org

April 24 - 25 Pennsylvania Neshaminy Park Civil War Reenactment 9 a.m. - 4 p.m. 215-639-4538 For more information email neshaminysp@state.pa.us or contact: Russ Manning 215-920-2321 archducrj1@aol.com
Activities are open to the public Saturday and Sunday. In addition to the daily `Battles` there will be a host of Civil War programs throughout the day.

April 30 - May 2 Virginia Battle of the Wilderness, 140th anniversary activities. Ellwood open 11 am-4:30 pm Friday and 11 am-5 pm during weekend. National Park plans activities. Check www.nps.gov/frsp for the latest information.



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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST FMLY Jayne, HOST FMLY Bill and their many faithful friends :)

March 18 & 19, 2004 - OPEN CHAT

March 25 & 26, 2004 - COASTAL WAR originally done by Kathy Dhalle

April 1 & 2, 2004 - OPEN CHAT

April 8 & 9, 2004 - Our special Songs letters and poems nights. If you would like to share something sent from your ancestor during the war, please send to HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill

April 15 & 16, 2004 - OPEN CHAT

April 22 & 23, 2004 - To be announced

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.

Bill and Jayne :-)

Sunday, March 14, 2004

PRONI Homepage

PUBLIC RECORD OFFICE of NORTHERN IRELAND


Surviving Census Material
The first successfully completed census of Ireland took place in 1821. Unfortunately it, and almost all the census returns after that up until 1891, were destroyed, either by government order during the First World War or were lost in the destruction of the Public Record Office in Dublin, in 1922. A few remnants remain of the 1821 - 1851 censuses, but that of 1901 is the earliest and most complete census of Ireland that survives.
1901 Census


The National Archives of Ireland
The National Archives of Ireland (Bishop Street, Dublin) hold the original census returns for both 1901 and 1911 but the 1911 census is not available in PRONI. They also hold the original fragments of the 19th century census returns.
The National Archives of Ireland homepage

No manuscript returns survive for 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891. There are some returns for 1821, 1831, 1841 and 1851 covering parts of counties Antrim, Cavan, Cork, Fermanagh, Galway, King's Co. (Offaly), Londonderry (Derry), Meath and Waterford, and there is a list of names of heads of household in the returns of 1851 for Belfast City and Dublin City (see the list of 19th century census returns in the Reading Room or consult The 1851 Dublin City Census, Chart's Index of Heads of Household CD-ROM compiled and edited by Seán Magee, Eneclann, 2001). There are also census search forms for each county giving the results of searches made in the returns of 1841 and 1851 for pension purposes (see separate list for each county available in the Reading Room), and some other copies made from the returns of 1821-1851 (see list of 19th century census returns - miscellaneous copies and certified copies available in the Reading Room).

Google Search: Public Record Office of Northern Ireland

History: "The parish is the smallest unit of ecclesiastical and administrative organization in England"

SOGN in Danish


>> . The smallest unit of local government. Parishes became units of civil administration in the 16th century, when they were made responsible for the highways and for administering the poor law. The boundaries of civil and ecclesiastical parishes, at first corresponding, increasingly diverged with the growing complexity of local government, especially in the 19th century. The powers of the parish councils are now limited to such matters as maintaining bus shelters and footpaths. The ancient custom of `beating the bounds' (or marking the boundaries) on 25 April and the Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday before Ascension Day (the Rogation Days) is still practiced in some parishes.
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and the youngest choirboy is held by his ankles and hid head knocked on the boundary stone.

sort of thing you remember all your life !
History of Parish Registers: "Bishops transcripts

The bishop's transcripts (BT) were established in the Church of England by a constitution of 1597, codified by a canon of 1603. They are an annual return to the bishop of a copy of the parish register entries for the proceeding year.

The dates covered by the BTs each year vary from parish to parish before 1812. Since then, they tended to standardise on 1 January to 31 December. Most parishes ceased sending marriages with their transcripts after July 1837.

Further reading
Cox, Parish registers of England (1910)
Tate, The parish chest (1951)"
"joe" wrote in message news:4053BE17.B6FA211D@genesearch.com...
> Hello Steve,
> The Morton Allan Directory shows the Russia
> arriving in New York (from Hamburg) on 12/23/1890. The passenger list
> may be dated a day or two different than the actual arrival date (often
> they are dated the next day). If you wish to have a look at this
> passenger list you can order it on microfilm from a Family History
> Center for viewing for a small fee. For microfilm info see...
>
> New York Passenger Lists 1820-1897
> http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/nylists1820.html << dead URL

Google Search: New York Passenger Lists 1820-1897
>
> Be aware that when filling out the naturalization forms some people
> simply forgot their arrival details.
>
> Good luck with your search.
>
> Regards,
> Joe
>
Google Search: Morton Allan Directory new to me

Morton Allan Directory of European stmaship arrivals

pre 1892 and Ellis Island

Searching the Morton Allan Directory in One Step
Sunday morning 651 am gmt I woke up about 45 mins ago feeling refreshed so followed my routine of toilet bathroom kitchen

there I make a pint of tea, today typhoo , and take my old mans pills (water, aspirin , blood pressure, multivitamnins, and for 7 days antebiotics too with an overheated gall bladder again). I have a mixture of oats, bran flakes and jsut a few raisins as a fat reuced poo man s muesli.

I have cut a non recyclable fizzy drinks flask down to make a scoop to limit my portion size, which seesm to be wroking as I have lost 10 kilos weight over the last 2 or 3 weeks. I pour on skimmed milk and into the pint glass of tea and a little steell jug for the second glass of tea.


I open the window wide and sit there naked enjoying the cold morning air. the bird song and the view to the north from the seventh.

Being sunday the motorway to nw is quiet , normally the rumble of M6 tires sounds like distant surf on a pebble beach or at the feet of the Faerose cliffs.

Sometimes it is 200 am or 400 am but last night I saw a b movie SPECIES *** apart from the sewer scenes at the end (and the obligatory left over monsters for the sequels) had some quite good moments. I have cinema quality sound from my Sony 5 speker system so as much a anything enjoy a modern sound track, by turning the back speakers and the woofer to max.
Quite scared so saw some other stuff to relax coffe and cold cheddar cheese on warm toast and a bit of grumpier old men from 1996 where I watched Matthau being funny rather than laughing at the gags.

had a good day yesterday - Google Search: "hugh watkins" shows some of what I wrote in our online genealogical communities. I love solving problems - and map reading since I was 10 years old so locating LATHAM STREET Booth Poverty Map & Modern map (Charles Booth Online Archive) was a big thrill because it took three attempts.

My daughter "phoned" me yesterday - by that I mean she sent me an IM via msn.com which includes the code from the old MS web meeting so I bought a pait of cheap webcams in NETTO in Denmark so we can see each other Google Search: hama usb webcam now that is a real thrill ! HAMA - Die passende Lösung

Now to red my mail

25 in Outlook express FOTW and Mon Yahoo related lists

40 in usenet genealogy groups

in AOL communicator I have 7 mailboxes about 40 messages and 15 filtered bits of spam to report
at about 820 am each cay I get notification from the message boards i watch or administrate - 99 at the last count but run at only 10 to 20 postings a day.

Therefore I am starting of f with a blog for a change.

My second pint of tea is getiing colder now, I finished off yesterdays washing up whilst it was brewing and plan to do my email to about 900am and back to bed to lunch time - I might just see Breakfast with Frost because of the developing political event with the Spanish terror attacks.

dealing with Napoleon and Hitler took many more deaths but this latest charismatic nutter Bin Laden is being nipped in the bud at an earlier stage <.sigh>

I cannot weep for every death, I lost my own father all too young and I know life just goes on if you are lucky enough not to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

A child dies unseen every 3 seconds world wide, mostly by preventable disease, and gun accidents are the second biggest public health problem in USA then the price of road transport runs at wiping out a small town every year. Pointless explosions will swing Spain to the right and Spain in agressive mode is going to be a powerful ally in the fight against terrorism.

Bush is absolutely not my cup of tea, a killer governor, I am a pacifist in theory but a soldier in reality - for me there have beeen no bad US presidents since 1945 because none pressed the big red button marked A-bombs.

Sparta on the box last night docu - beating their boys to toughen them , I was beaten many times at school and never cried once. I was raised to be a male chauvanist a "gentleman" potentially an army officer, ie a killer playing with rifles since age 14 or a colonist or a civil servant or higher. i have moved on via christianity , born again and all that jazz, to a pragamtic utilitarianism, and atheistic existentialism.

adapt and survive.

live one day at a time ans be happy

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