Saturday, September 25, 2004

Watkins Family History Society - WFHS Home Page:

"Our steadfast pursuit is to assist in connecting as many Watkins people as possible world-wide.
We invite you to read, share and make new connections with other Watkins researchers with the help of the resources that we make available here."

A big welsh patronymic which means we are all name brothers not related by blood

=============== newsletter ==========

The Watkins FHS is continuing its efforts towards building a site
which will eventually contain data for millions of WATKINS names.
This is being done in an attempt to gather information into one
site which will facilitate finding the whereabouts of your

We want very much to include all available data, but we need your
help in that regard. We ask all of you who live around the world to
lend us a hand by sending us census records, ships lists,
birth/death certificate data, wills and deeds, and church records
which we can include on the site: -

While we have a lot of free access to American data, we are sorely
lacking in our ability to search English, Welsh, Australian, New
Zealand and other country databases. Due to the fact that we are a
non-profit organization, we are not able to spend the kind of money
that it would take for us to access sites that have limited time
and have a charge per name.

If you have any knowledge of free search sites, forwarding these
addresses to us would be most appreciated. Send whatever
information you wish to share to our Founder Buzz Watkins

Many thanks to all of you for any help you can send our way! We
will, of course, be glad to give full credit to you for any
information sent.
Registration Services - Certificate Ordering Service: "Certificate ordering service

Welcome to the General Register Office for England and Wales online ordering service
The General Register Office (GRO) holds a central copy of all registrations for England and Wales. Local Register Offices also hold records of events registered in their area.

For recent events registered within the last 18 months, applications for certificates should be made to the Register Office in the district where the birth, death or marriage took place.
Service Announcement

Now extended to customers worldwide following the success of a pilot service for UK residents. *
General Register Office - 8th July 2004"

Please enter your full postcode or town in the box above and click GO.

so find your ancestors adress then themodern equivalent
The National Archives | Learning guides | Family history | Introduction: "We hold historic records (archives) created or collected by central government of the United Kingdom, and of the central English law courts. It has rightly been called 'The Nation's Memory', as it houses material spanning a thousand years of our history. The business of central government has long had an impact on everyone's life. Millions of people are named in nationwide census returns of population and taxation lists, in military service papers, records about public officers, merchant shipping, litigants, emigrants and immigrants and a host of other sources.
We may not always be the best place to begin tracing your ancestry, but you will almost certainly find it invaluable at some stage of your research, to provide that vital link between generations or individuals, fix people in place and time, or fill gaps in your family's story.
We also maintain the National Register of Archives, which contains useful information about non-governmental records, and the Manorial Documents Register, which contains information about surviving manorial documents and their known location. These two resources provide further avenues to explore for records held outside The National Archives."

Friday, September 24, 2004

BBC - Midlands Today - Index FRIDAY 24th September 2004 aprox 18 mins inrto the sequence 19 42secs when I appear for 10 or 1 sec in long shot

I was in long shot closing a segment about Birmingham Markets today renamed Bullring Markets - looks good on my new 1mb connection !

I went shopping for soup bones and ended up as well with lamb chops and a couple of steaks and a quarterd broiler chicken.

3 portions already in the deep freeze and one in the presssure cooker.

Arbroath Smokies too which will make a change from the danish smoked mackerel or herrings.

Then stocked up on fruit and vegetables - gloriously fresh big carrots , onions, english apples - I can never say no to COXES, grapes, conference pears, oranges, grapefuits - about 6 ot 7 of each for each£1 - then 3 for £1 a white cabbage, a savoy cabbage and an iceberg lettuce.

I have enough frozen fish from the last visit - so wentt to tell them how good the frozen salmon was. That is at the end of the best cheese place in Birmingham with mature cheddar and a stilton nearing perfection and beginning to turn brown.

So we chatted about the wonderful stilton serve whole with a spoon at
11-15 Swallow Street

with a wonderful port
and their consomme with an oyster in it.

Set up in 1916, this traditional seafood and oyster bar is redolent of class and the glory days of yore.
Settle into a private booth amid wood panelling and bay windows, and start with lobster soup, crack open a crab, slip down a few oysters, or daintily tuck into a dish of succulent sea bass or mouth-watering red mullet with aubergine and cumin.
Offering a real eclectic catch from four different types of caviar to comfort classics like cod and chips, there are also set lunch and dinner menus that represent very good value.
Alternatively, you can eat at the bar for a fraction of the price.

The wine cellar is voluminous, and a bottle of house wine can be reeled in for around £16.

Map here

Chefs news, restaurant gossip, new restaurants, restaurants closing, restaurants opening, chefs leaving, new chefs

Economic History Resources - How Much is That? (British Pounds): "Comparing the purchasing power of money in the Great Britain from 1600 to any other year including the present."

nice site thanks to Hedley Hunnisett in Google Search: soc.genealogy.britain">soc.genealogy.britain
Google Search: tafwys

saw this funny word TAFWYS
a a sig. Author: tafwys

so guess what I found AFON TAFWYS and a rather good text to teach yourself welsh with

the river AVON - we have several in UK - means
river RIVER AFON is modern welsh, or old brythonic, and place names often preserve tracves of the ancient celtic language

so the river Thames
pronounced ? *tavuis ??
Welcome to Charles Darwin University

Uniquely located in the tropical north of Australia, the School of Art and Design is building on its established links with indigenous artists of Northern Australia and developing inter-cultural exchange programs and research activities within the immediate Asia Pacific region.
Charles Darwin University's On-line Course and Admission Guide showing Course Offerings: "Art and Design
A lot about our cultures can be revealed when you take a close look at the art and design it produces. You can picture future archeologists digging for remains of our cultures, trying to put pieces of the puzzle together to get an idea of what our lives were about from the art and design of the period.

Charles Darwin University offers study options in art and design ranging from short courses in photography to masters programs in visual arts. What ever course you choose, as an art student you receive both skill-based and conceptual training."
The Bill Brandt Archive Home Page

S�ren Kierkegaards Plads 1
DK-1214 Copenhagen K
August 25 - October 30th

The major exhibition celebrating the centenary of the birth of Bill Brandt (1904-83), Britain's best-loved photographer of modern times. Presenting vintage gelatin-silver prints from the Bill Brandt Archive.

no fool like an old fool
I was too preoccupied with aches and pains to notice this when I was last in Copenhagen
Scrapatorium: Windmill: "The days come and go like muffled and veiled figures sent from a distant friendly party, but they say nothing, and if we do not use the gifts they bring, they carry them as silently away.

Ralph Waldo Emerson "

Wednesday, September 22, 2004

ShoeString Genealogy: "ShoeString Genealogy provides Family Historians with information about how to research their ancestors both in the Internet and in libraries and other repositories. Besides how, it indicates where � locations for information and the relative value of each. "
SogneTræf Dansk/Engelsk Ordbog

glossary for genealogist Danish english

and more Google Search: glossary genealogy Danish english

and an even better search string
try glossary with any old foreign word

Google Search: glossary aft�gtskone

Tuesday, September 21, 2004

The Society of Genealogists regularly gets posters and flyers a volunteer has kindly
summarised these for members' interest.

Smedley Hydro, Trafalgar Road, Southport, PR8 2HH
With effect from 1st September 2004 the current national rate number will
be replaced with a local rate number 0845 603 7788

EAST of LONDON FHS - Havering Branch
Topic: Peasants, Priests and Politicians. Medieval People in Essex.
Talk by William Tyler
Date: Saturday 4th October 2004

Venue: The Trinity Church Hall, Upminster (entrance in Gaynes Road) 2pm
until 4pm
Doors open 10.30am Computer Group meeting starts at 11am
Cost: Free to members; non members £1.50 donation

Topic: "Routes to Roots"
A series of free events as part of the Archive Awareness Campaign 2004

Venue: Lecture Theatre of Guildhall Library, Aldermanbury, London, EC2P 2EJ
Time: All talks begin at 2pm
12th October "The Records of St Paul's Cathedral & the Diocese of London"
followed by a visit to St Paul's Cathedral Library (2 hours)

21st October Behind the scenes tour of the Manuscripts Sections store and
Conservation workshop (1 hour)

2nd November "Using archives to trace the history of a community: Stepney
Derek Morris, Local Historian. (45 mins)

25th November: Behind the scenes tour of the Manuscripts Sections store and
Conservation workshop (1 hour)

13th December: "Livery Company Records at Guildhall Library", Stephen
Freeth, Keeper of Manuscripts, followed by a visit to Goldsmiths' Hall. (2
Numbers are limited. Please book in advance by telephoning 020 7332 1862/3

Topic: "The Cinque Ports: Archaeology & Heritage"
run by the Council for British Archaeology(CBA) in association with the
for Continuing Education (CCE) and the Sussex Archaeological Society
Date: Saturday 13 November 2004 9.00am to 5pm

Venue: Chichester Lecture Theatre
Cost: Full £25; CBA & SAS members £22; Concession £15
Contact: CCE Conference Coordinator, Programmes Office, Arts E201, The
Sussex Institute, University of Sussex, Falmer, Brighton BN1 9SN
Tel: 01273 877 888; Fax: 01273 877 534

Topic: Sussex Ouse research project - a symposium
Date: Saturday 20 November 2004 9.00am to 5pm

Cost: Full £30; Student rate £10; Concession £5
Contact: CCE Open lectures, Programmes Office, Arts E201, The Sussex
Institute, University of Sussex, Falmer, Brighton BN1 9SN
Tel: 01273 877 888; Fax: 01273 877 534

The National Archives free online resource

Pathways to the Past is the National Archives web resource for the lifelong
learner. All the exhibitions explore original sources for learning about
different aspects of history.

The First World War

Black Presence; Asian & Black History in Britain 1500-1850

Citizenship: A history of people, rights and power in Britain

Trafalgar to Korea: 5 British battles 1805-1951

1901: Living at the Time of the Census

Uniting the Kingdoms? 1066 - 1603

The Government is now considering the recommendations of a major new report
into the future of archives in the UK. Let the government know what you
think archives should be doing for you in the 21st century.

The Task Force Recommendations are:
1. Creating a website that will bring together all the archival resources
available online & give everyone the chance to access OK archives.
2. Showing the difference that archives make to the social & economic life
of people in the UK
3. Helping more people to learn from archives, whether they are in formal
education or not
4. Increasing the chances for community groups to access archives
5. Making sure that business, private and specialist archives can develop
alongside the more established public archives.
6. Making sure that film, sound, photographic & digital archives are looked
after & made available
7. Helping archive services to be more effective & efficient.

You can read the full report of the Archive Task Force at or by calling MLA on 020 7273
1458 for a copy
To find out more go to

"Lords of All they Survey" - Estate Maps at the Guildhall Library.
Dates: 9 Aug - 30 Oct 2004; Monday to Saturday 9.30 - 5.00
(Bookshop closed on Saturday)

Venue: Guildhall Library, Aldermanbury, London EC2P 2EJ
Tel: 020 7332 1862/3 or 020 7332 1839
Admission free
Nearest underground station: Bank, St Paul's, Mansion House and Moorgate

GUILDHALL LIBRARY - Corporation of London Libraries
Discover Guildhall Library Collections - Four opportunities to talk to
staff and view materials

Thurs 30 Sept 12.30 to 1.30: Historic Trade Directories - exploring trade
directories dating back to the 18th century

Thursday 28 Oct 12.30 to 1.30: Maritime History - Exploring the historic
maritime records of Lloyd's of London

Thursday 18 Nov 12.30 to 1.30: London & Middlesex Criminals in 17th - 19th
centuries - Covering trials, juries, the Sessions House, Tyburn and

Thursday 16 Dec 12.30 to 1.30: Researching site history in London
To reserve a place call 020 7332 1866

Thurs 30 Sept, 10.30am to 4pm

A training day based on the book Documenting the History of Houses by Nat
Alcock (2003). The day is aimed at archivists and those working on their
own house histories to explore sources and new approaches to this type of
research. Speakers: Dr Nat Alcock, Dr Annabelle Hughes, Dr Chris Currie
(Institute of Historical Research), Dr Pat Hughes.
£40 (discount for members of British Records Association)
Jean Harper, British Records Association, c/o Finsbury Library, 245 St John
Street, London. EC1V 4NB.
Tel: 020 7833 0428

In Portsmouth:

Sat 30 April to Sunday 2 May - Conference; "Portsmouth Dockyard in the Age
of Nelson", Historic Dockyard.
Contact Dr Ann Coats, Naval Dockyards Society tel: 023 9286 3799

Tuesday 13 - Wed 14 Sept "Nelson's last Drive". From Merton to Portsmouth.
Contact Bill White tel: 020 8994 1416

Sat 17 - Sun 18 Sept 2005: "Nelson's Last Walk". Pageant on Southsea Common

Fri 14 - Sun 16 October 2005 "The Trafalgar Heroes" International
Conference in the Historic Dockyard. Linked with concerts in the Cathedral
and Guildhall and the Annual Seafarers Service in Portsmouth Cathedral.
Tel: 023 9272 7567

Friday 21 October "Trafalgar Day Celebrations centred on HMS Victory" to
include the start of national Beacon Lighting.

Events taking place Nationally:
Major Exhibition at the National Maritime Museum
Wed 13 - Fri 15 July Conference "Europe at war - the Trafalgar Campaign in
Context" an International conference in London & Greenwich Contact: Dr
Nigel Rigby tel: 020 8312 6559

12 Aug - 11 Sept 2005 "The New Trafalgar Despatch" Symbolic recreation of
the voyage of HMS & Lt Lapenotiere's ride from Falmouth to London to
deliver Collingwood's Trafalgar despatch. Contact: Bill White tel: 020 8994

16 Sept 2005 "The Thames Nelson Flotilla" Symbolic recreation of the
waterborne funeral procession. Contact: Peter Warwick tel: 020 8947 9061

Thurs 20 October 2005 "Trafalgar Dinner at the Guildhall, London" organised
by King George's Fund for Sailors.

21 Oct 2005 Bell ringing from New Zealand to Britain
"Trafalgar Dinner in the Painted Hall, Greenwich. Organised by the
Greenwich Foundation & the 1805 Club. Contact Helen Beioley tel: 020 8269 4753

Please address any queries to the organisers of the Events, rather than the
Society ~ we only have the information shown here.

from their mailing list - SOG-NEWS-L - a news and information list which is open to anybody interested in the activities of the Society, both non-members and members.
Taliesin Arlein - ONS Names List check out aprox. how many people of any surname in UK

experience of members of the Guild of One-Name Studies suggest 3000 is about the limit for one person to manage

Custodian 3 Home Page: "Custodian is a set of source-based databases with data entry forms designed to store genealogical information.

Many family historians collect a great deal of information about people with the same surname - not necessarily linked!
How this information is stored and organised has long been of interest to family historians, especially those conducting a One-Name Study.

This is where Custodian can help. "

Monday, September 20, 2004

from the Danish newsgroup dk.videnskab.historie.genealogi

Hvordan arbejder Mormonerne egentlig med slægterne?

Hvis du vælger kun at søge på International Genealogical Index og vælger
Denmark som region kan du nederst på siden indtaste batchnummer C201054
og få en oversigt over alt hvad der i netop den afskrift.
Eller brug evt. skemaet på:

> Scripsit Arne Feldborg:
> > Alle Batchnumre der begynder med C, M, J eller F er systematiske
> > afskrifter af kirkebøger fra det pågældende sogn i den nævnte
> > periode.

Velkommen > Familier > Familien er central for Guds plan med os > Familier kan være sammen for evigt > Templer some danish pages from Introduktion til Jesu Kristi Kirke af Sidste Dages Hellige

english pages - Where do members of the Church live?
an email to me from Canada:-

Hello Hugh

I was going to post more the other day, and got called away on business.

Although I now live almost a thousand miles closer to St. John's (than I
did last year), I still have never made it there (only province that I have
never been in). I hope to rectify this next spring. Meanwhile I drive back
& forth to Ontario regularly on business.

Since I often find that people in the UK don't really comprehend the size
of Canada, I'll present a small example:

A return trip from my former residence in Ontario to St. John's, would have

3, 538 miles driving (approx. 44.5 hours & $713.00 gas).
$312.00 in ferry costs, plus a minimum of 12 hours on the boat. There is
another, more expensive ferry running in summer that goes closer to St.
John's, but!
that's just getting there and back!

from my current residence:

1,674 miles driving (approx. 21 hours & $338.00 gas)
$312.00 in ferry costs, plus a minimum of 12 hours on the boat.

I hope to see what Pier 21, and the marine museum (Halifax) has to offer
over the coming winter, although I don't personally have any known family
who came to Canada before me in 1960... other than one that only stayed
here for a few years and returned to Wales.

And since some of the responses I get (or usually don't get!) from the
various lists give me the impression that many feel that I am just a
"free-loader" ....

Although much of my family history involves Monmouthshire, Glamorgan,
Somerset, Hampshire, Dorset, Middlesex, & London, with many wandering
elsewhere, I admittedly have done little to help out with transciptions
etc. in these areas. I have often had help from many on these lists however
(yourself included).

How I have tried to help, is to do what I can for others here.. and from

Without any connection to my families:

1. I have visited graveyards in 4 provinces, providing photos or tombstone
transcriptions for many individuals, and have a short list of "requests"
already for my trip starting next week.

2. I have been known to visit museums and acquire photcopies of family
bible pages (Hampton N.B. Middleville and Almonte in Ontario).

3. I am in the process of doing headstone or memorial transcriptions at
various (older) cemeteries and churches in Bath & Bristol (Both in N.B.),
Bridgewater & Wolfeville (both in N.S.), the Cathedral in Quebec City, and
several cemeteries in Ontario... generally looking for those that migrated
from the south of England & Wales.

4. As an organbuilder (working for many churches) I have also occasionally
been allowed access to original registers to check for a missing or
confusing records of baptism, marriage, death, etc. I am always checking
any memorials for those born in the U.K.

5. I monitor the various Rootsweb lists even when travel necessitates that
I am unsubscribed, and often change my travel plans to try to include a
town or village where U.K. families migrated to.

6. In monitoring the lists, I often help people that are struggling in
sorting their families out, and have been known to spend many hours on some
cases. Many that I have helped have names that you would recognize. In
helping some that don't know how to really search the Internet, I have been
asked (several times!) if I am "Google Hugh" ... but have always conceded
the title to you.

7. Any costs that I have incurred on behalf of others (travel, photocopy,
museum donations, "lost time", etc.) have all come out of my pocket.

So where as I am not often able to answer many questions on the lists, and
am seen to be only asking for help .... I figure that you (and others on
the lists) have helped me many times ... therefore I help as many people as
I am able to ... hopefully they are helping where they can also...

Please don't feel that the frustration expressed in this missive is solely
directed toward you. It is not! But there have been occasions, when I have
seen someone provide parish records to someone else, so I make a request to
the list ... and get a terse message (OFF=LIST) telling me to buy the
certificate. I order those that that I can (4 marriages & 1 death this last
month alone). If I was to order every certificate that could help me piece
together all my families, I would soon be bankrupt.

Anyway Hugh, I hope you don't mind that I got a few of my frustrations
typed out!


from one SKS to another in reply to:-

so please post the details of say two of your brick walls

SKS may be able to help - but none of us are mind readers :-)

in exchange you might becone very popular if you can do look ups in
the mariners archives over there

Maritime History Archive,
Memorial University of Newfoundland,
St John's,
Canada A1C 5S7

hold 70% of the Crew Agreements from 1863-1938, and 80% of the
Agreements from 1951-1976. But they hold no agreements for 1875, 1885,
1895, or 1905.

which came form

They hold all the surviving documents from 1747-1860, a 10% sample of
each year from 1861-1938, all official logs from 1902-1919, all papers
from 1939-1950, a 10% sample of each year from 1951-1976, and all
records pertaining to famous ships (e.g. the Titanic) from 1861-1938.
where weeding the archives created more space for newer stuff
They hold 90% of the Crew Agreements for the years 1861-1862, 90% of
the Crew Agreements for the years ending in '5' from 1865-1935, and
90% of the years ending in '5' from 1955-1975, as well as many Mates
and Masters Certificates of Competency and their applications.


or more local stuff

tell us more about your own MON needs on the list

Hugh W

as I wrote the above I realised my Canadian geography was dodgy, my provionces all mixed up,
but having researched it I would post it anyway in order to disseminate knowledge about those archives and their three way split.

Sunday, September 19, 2004

My Blogs


  • This is my oldest blog and I use this for news and notes about my site
    Danish Census and Church Books, other sites, and my daily surfing of the net.
    The blog has been rightly criticised as chaotic but googling will discover some pearls.

  • Exploring Rootsweb

  • I spent a lot of time adminstering message boards and will build up a guide to Rootsweb.

  • Exploring Ancestry dot com and co uk

  • I log on here nearly every day to surf the census and do look ups for myself and friends, and it is so big that a guide is needed to the many databases.

  • Getting to know AOL

  • America Online has become my favourite ISP in UK and I use AOL for chat and as a BBS.

  • Viking

  • This will eventually include a viking novel in public first draft, but also has stuff about modern Denmark.

  • 1805

  • This started as a project to translate selected pages of the diary of Hans Christian Andersen but he was born the same year that Vice Admiral Horatio Lord Nelson died and I am comparing what UK and DK will celebrate in their 2005 bicentenary .

  • Memories

  • I am living history because I was born in 1936.

  • Hugh's Review of Reviews

  • My first success as a freelancee journalist was in the Record Review in 1960, and I enjoy bring critical and analytical. I have retired as a musician and recommencing my career as a writer, I have decided to self-publish in the blogsphere rather than on paper.

  • Hugh's Bloog

  • This is about blogging - and other silly stuff like my health and web oddities.