Friday, December 03, 2004

BBC NEWS | UK | Pages from 1881 census go online

"During the next two years, all censuses from 1841 to 1891 will become available in the same way.

Famous names in the 1881 census include Winston Churchill and Charles Darwin.

Queen Victoria is also included, living at Windsor Castle with other members of the Royal Family including Eugenie, the "Ex-Empress of the French".

Charles Darwin was living with his large family at Down House in Kent, while Karl Marx, living in St Pancras, said his occupation was "author, political economy".

"Other memorable names include a man called Donald Duck, a GP called Dr Robert De'ath, William Neal, who had no occupation because he was "too idle", and the Munslow twins called Bank and Holiday. "
The National Archives | Search our collections | Census records

"Census records are invaluable in helping you find your ancestors. Discover who was living at the same address as your ancestor in 1901, 1891 and 1881 and start building your family tree."

bad advice - search by name and birthplace

The New Forest Gypsies.

from my email:-
From: "Raymond Wells

To: the list about the part of Hampshire
called the NEW FOREST

Just a note to let you all know that Len Smith's book on New Forest Gypsies
now been published. My source says it is only on sale in Lymington, but that
not be correct.

Hardback ISBN 0 9523173 6 2 (Price unknown)
Paperback ISBN 0 9523173 7 0 (Price £14-99 )

Title Romany Nevi Wesh
An informal history of the New Forest Gypsies

Author Len Smith
Publisher Nova Foresta Publishing
17, Castle Malwood Lodge,
SO43 7HB
email Nova Foresta's
Home Page


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Thursday, December 02, 2004


Dansk Arkivalieinformationssystem
Daisy version 1.0

this is the Danish National Archives Ctatlogue on line at last !

Wednesday, December 01, 2004

DIS-Danmark - Meddelelser latest news from the Computers in Genealogy Society of Denmark

their server has beenn physically relocated and was unstable
should be OK now
from my email:-


29 November 2004

HI Everyone, and welcome to this weeks GENUKI Family History News.
I hope there is something of interest to you in this weeks news. Remember – its your local news & views that get put here, so keep news from your society or group coming in!

Tomorrow I am off for a conference, travelling again, and will be away for a week – so there will be a gap next week.

In the meantime … NEW BOOKS AND CD’s

From Phillimore’s loatest catalogue I notice they have recently published the following books:

Palaeography for Family and Local Historians, Hilary Marshall. £17.99 Hilary has been running courses on this subject for a good number of years, one of which I was lucky enough to sit in on. This will be a an excellent book on a difficult subject

Gathering the Clans: Tracing Scottish Ancestry on the Internet, Alan Stewart, £9.99

Well Heeled: The remarkable story of the Public Benefit Boot Company, Brian Seddon and David L Bean, £17.99

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The History of Scarborough The history of Scarborough from the earliest date, written by Joeseph Baker, was published in 1882 with many illustrations and maps. It contains much valuable historic information in relation to the habits, customs and peculiarities of past generations of Scarborough

Thrilling Experiences in the War in South Africa - 1900 A terrific book for anyone wanting to get the flavour and background of the Boer war without having to read through a more conventional "history." This book is more like a Tabloid account of the war, relying as much on captioned pictures as it does on the written story

Kelly's Directory of Oxfordshire 1939 Huge pull out map of Oxfordshire. These late directories are comprehensive and thoroughly indexed. Contains detailed descriptions of each place in the county and lists the private residents and trades people

1871 London Kent - Lewisham RG10/741-761
1871 London Kent - Woolwich RG10/774-794
1871 London Surrey - St. Saviour Southwark RG10-592-623
1871 London Surrey - St. Olave Southwark RG10/624-646
1871 London Surrey - Lambeth Part 1 Waterloo Rd, Lambeth RG10/647-668
1871 London Surrey - Lambeth Part 2 Kennington, Brixton, Norwood RG10/669-694
1871 London Surrey - Wandsworth Clapham, Battersea, Wandsworth, Putney RG10/695-720 1871 London Surrey - Camberwell Camberwell, Peckham RG10/721-740

Cornish Notes & Queries 1906 Reprinted from The Cornish Telegraph in 1906 and edited by Peter Penn. The CD contains the articles from the newspaper that have been selected for their particular points of interest and organised into topical chapters. Chapters include, Race, History, Topography, Biography, Genealogy, Language, Dialect, Surnames and Place names, Antiquities and Folk Lore, Mining, Phenomena, Epitaphs, Curious sign posts, Eccentric characters and Humorous stories.

Lancashire & Cheshire Historical and Genealogical Notes Local and family history, abstracts of deeds,charters, wills, folklore, legends, traditions, etc. Available as set of three volumes or singles.

Pedigrees Recorded in the Visitations of the County of Durham During the 1500s and 1600s, the Heralds visited each county and recorded the pedigrees of families. In many cases the pedigrees date back to Norman times (the 11th century). These records form an extremely important source of information for family historians.

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WEBPAGE REVIEWS A truly fantastic web site. This site lists burial grounds in London, and gives information on each one listed. Each entry has maps, and pictures where possible, of the site in the nineteenth century and nowadays. The web site is put together in such a way that it is compulsive, and historical information about the site added to details of famous burials make it an absolute gem. The site is extremely well designed, very fast to download and incredibly informative, this is definitely one of the best web sites I have seen for some time. An absolute boon for local and family historians with an interest in the London area – both City and Greater. The web site of the Welsh Interest group of the New Zealand Society of Genealogists. A useful little web site, this will have particular interest to those whose Welsh ancestors had migrated overseas. The web site contains information about the Society, and the Welsh Interest Group, but also lists of names from such things as Welsh born immigrants to New South Wales, New Zealand, Clwyd strays, and an awful lot more besides. I did not like the design that much, but the site was easy enough to use. The look of the pages just needed tidying up a little. Otherwise a good little site, and full of useful information. This is an absolutely great web site, the type usually referred to as a portal. In other words there was little actual information on the site, but it contains a vast amount of links to external information. This is one of the best types of portal – one that is very specific, but has a good coverage. The site contains links to census information and other lists for Ireland. It would take forever to list them all but there are a lot of them! Some of the stranger ones included lists of Huguenot Regiments, Irish Revenue Commissioners and a 1659 census for names of Amagh. The font is quite small, and not the easiest to read, and I found initially the design a little off putting, but it is definitely worth persevering as there is a lot more here than initially it seems. A great web site, vital for people with Irish ancestors, and I suspect one that will end up on a favourites list.

SUMNER, George, son of David & Mary, 29 April 1847, Newcastle under Lyme

BEARD, Mary, 1 May 1884 - aged 78, Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire*
GORDON, William. 23 Sep 1845, aged 16, Plymouth, DEV
LAYCOCK, John William, 2 Nov 1879, aged 11 months, Thurgoland, Yorkshire*

If this is of use to you in your own personal research, drop me a line At and I will put you in touch with the current holder Meanwhile, if you have a certificate you don't need that may be of use to someone else then drop me a line, and we will advertise it in an upcoming newsletter . If you have a spare certificate that is of no use to you at all then you can either send me the details via email, or send me the certificate.

If the certificate is sent to me then it will be sent on to any enquiries. After six months if nobody has claimed the certificates as interesting to their research then they will be deposited at the SoG library. I will however keep all the details of the certificate on file and where possible pass them on to any relevant one name studies registered with the Guild of One Name Studies.

We only publish certificates more than 100 years old, but pass all certificates on.

The address for spare certificates to be sent to is: Rob Thompson, GFHN, 6 Sinclair Road, Shurdington, Cheltenham, GL51 4SG


g-grandmo. Frances (Hall) KING widowed 7 Dec 1854, spouse Charles in Coast Guard, buried at sea. Looking for two children Julia b 1845 and Charles born 1847 abt 7 and 9 yrs old. They were living in Cornwal Portscatho Eng per 1851 said Census. Therese /USA

KEYES, ROBERT. Looking for family information on ROBERT KEYES (ca 1565-1606), of the Gunpowder Plot of 1605. According to The Gunpowder Plot Society ( His wife was Christiana, widow of Thos. Groom. Did Robert and Christiana have any children? What was her maiden name? Parents? Place of birth, etc.? Would appreciate information on ancestry of this couple. Gunpowder Plot Society does not respond to querie.

I am looking for clues about Robert FLINT. He was in Cumbria in 1851 but born in Dupin (Deopham?) Norfolk in about 1822. His father's name was Charles. Robert had a son called Germany, this fits with others in Deopham, with various spellings. Robert's son Joseph was living in South Wales in 1901(aged 52). But where did he die? Any new clues welcome. Val Flint-Johnson
Kathy McMahon

I am looking for any family member of the STEEL family from Ripon Yorkshire.My grt grt Grandparents were Annie & Paul Steel,they had 5 children ? Emily Steel b. 1868 b. Ripon James Steel b. 1870. b Bradford Laura Steel b.1872 b.Leeds Edith Steel b 1874 b.Leeds Earnest Steel b,. 1876 b Leeds Paul Steel died in 1877 in Ripon Yrks Annie remarried John Fordham in 1879 in Ripon,and had 3 children to John Fordham, Annie owned the Lord Nelson Inn at on time too. If anyone knows what happened to the STEEL children I would be very pleased to know. Earnest Steel was my grandfather. I have researched back to 1780, but don't know what happened to the children except my grandad
Thank you
Kathy McMahon

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CRUWYS & variants from 1066 to the present in North Devon and elsewhere,
GOODE, William Born 1812, Balsall,
OLVER, Richard, born ca 1796, Launceston, Cornwall
ROWELL, Herriard Hampshire 1660-1850,
SUGGIT, Tindall, 1812 - 1866 Beverley, Yorkshire
WATERS, Samuel, 1828+ Sithney, Cornwall

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On 7th December at the Family Records Centre there is a talk entitled: Tracing Your Ancestors at the Society of Genealogists: An introduction to the most important sources available for family historians at the Society of Genealogists, this is being given by Else Churchill

8th December sees a talk by Brian Oldham at the SoG in London on the Great Crimean War Index. For more details see

See more events at: -

AND FINALLY That’s all for this week.

Keep your news and views coming in! Have a good week


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